Brian McLaren, a progressive Christian author, joins economic geographer Guillermo Bervejillo and community organizer Dawson Allen in a thought-provoking discussion. They challenge the church's economic blindness, framing economics as pivotal to understanding theology. Topics include Kojin Karatani's modes of exchange, the interplay of nation, state, and capital, and how these affect social outcomes. They emphasize the biblical narrative as a guide to communal reciprocity, calling for practical steps churches can take to reclaim community autonomy and foster deeper connections.