

David Wallace-Wells
Journalist and reporter at the New York Times, and author of Uninhabitable Earth. He covers public health and RFK Jr.'s recent upsets at the CDC.
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Sep 4, 2025 • 1h 57min
Episode 506 - RFK's CDC WTF (w/ David Wallace-Wells & Gabrielle Perry)
David Wallace-Wells, a New York Times journalist and author, along with epidemiologist Gabrielle Perry, delve into RFK Jr.'s influence on public health and the CDC's controversies. They debate the roots of public mistrust in health policies amid rising skepticism, particularly around vaccine messaging. The conversation highlights the complexities of political narratives surrounding COVID-19, the effectiveness of communication strategies, and the urgent need for nuanced public health approaches to rebuild trust.