In this engaging discussion, Mike Erre, a pastor and cultural commentator, reflects on the recent political climate and why many white evangelicals align with the MAGA movement despite its controversial rhetoric. David Swanson, an author and activist, introduces his book exploring the interconnected roots of racial and environmental injustices, highlighting greed as a common catalyst. The conversation emphasizes the urgent need for faith communities to encompass both justice issues, pushing listeners to reconsider their roles in fostering a more equitable and sustainable world.