David Rode

Senior national security reporter for MSNBC who contributes expertise on law enforcement, DOJ matters, and national security issues discussed in the episode.

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Oct 22, 2025 • 47min

'Incredibly weak claim': Inside Trump's demand for $230M from DOJ for past cases

Jonathan Martin, Politics bureau chief at Politico, dives into Trump's controversial $230 million claims against the DOJ, examining its legal frailty. David Rode, a senior national security reporter at MSNBC, breaks down how DOJ claims work and analyzes the weaknesses surrounding Trump's Mar-a-Lago search grievance. Mike Barnacle provides insights into the political implications of potentially using taxpayer money to pay Trump, while discussions veer into the broader theme of targeting political enemies and the consequences of mass pardons.

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