In this discussion, Amy Edmondson, a Harvard Business School professor, and David Riedman, founder of the K-12 School Shooting Database, explore the tragic chain of events leading to disasters. They emphasize the need for accountability after wildfires and school shootings, advocating for improved emergency responses. The conversation also touches on embracing failure as a pathway to growth, highlighting its vital role in both personal and organizational development. They argue for a cultural shift that supports open discussions around failure to prevent future tragedies.