Clay speaks with Enlightenment correspondent David Nicandri about Ken Burns' buffalo documentary, the Kennedy assassination book by Paul Landis, road adventures from Lewis and Clark to the Arctic Circle, witnessing a partial eclipse, and the cultural impact of the Kennedy assassination.

David Nicandri, an explorer, reflects on the risks taken by those who go where no man has gone before. The podcast discusses the disasters of the submersible Titan and the continuing allure of the Titanic. It explores the parallels between exploration and thrill-seeking, selective outrage towards wealthy individuals, and lessons from underwater vs. space programs. The speakers also reflect on our society's attitude towards risk and death and the quest for meaning and the human spirit in exploration.