The podcast discusses how Margaret Thatcher's influence is re-emerging in British politics, with Labour politicians invoking her spirit. They also delve into the Rwanda plan, Gaza crisis, and Leo Varadkar's resignation from Irish politics.

Sam Harris speaks with David Miliband about his work with the International Rescue Committee. They discuss the crisis of internally displaced peoples and refugees, the problem with open borders, the vetting of refugees, the limits of nation-building and diplomacy, the realities of globalization, global risks, defending human rights, a “post-values and post-competence” America, the breakdown of trust in institutions, the prospects of a second Trump term, and other topics. If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at samharris.org/subscribe.

David Miliband, the President of the International Rescue Committee and former UK Foreign Secretary, shares insights on the geopolitical factors affecting healthcare. He discusses the urgent need for humanitarian support in crisis zones like Sudan and Gaza. Giuseppe Moscelli, an economics expert from the University of Surrey, dives into new research linking staff turnover to negative patient outcomes, especially in the NHS. The conversation underscores the critical need for healthcare reforms and the importance of retaining skilled professionals for better patient care.

David Miliband, CEO of the International Rescue, discusses the Israeli airstrike on an aid convoy in Gaza, the challenges of delivering aid during conflict, and the need for a paradigm shift in humanitarian efforts in the region.

David Miliband, President of the International Rescue Committee, discusses the importance of creating legal routes to hope amid increased global migration. Topics include misconceptions about American immigration law, the impact of climate change on forced migration, and the need for a 21st-century refounding. The guest also explores the experiences of illness and disability and how empathy can be extended to people in crisis situations.