In this conversation, David Maraniss, a New York Times best-selling author and Pulitzer Prize winner, shares insights from his latest biography about Jim Thorpe, America’s greatest all-around athlete. They discuss the crucial balance between natural talent and hard work in sports, using legends like Thorpe and Bo Jackson as examples. Maraniss also addresses the complexities of navigating historical narratives, emphasizing the importance of sensitivity in representing Indigenous experiences. Lastly, he reflects on how the pandemic influenced his writing process.