Journalist David Josef Volodsko and Bari Weiss discuss the blurred line between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, controversial Lenin statues in the US, comparing Hitler and Lenin's psychology, and the emotional vs factual formation of ideologies. They explore historical figures, contrasting backgrounds of Lenin and Hitler, and the complexities of anti-Zionism in the Israel-Palestine conflict. The conversation delves into ideological perspectives, controversies, relentless beliefs, and navigating activism movements with a focus on Israel, Palestine, and Lenin's historical impact.