In this engaging conversation, Benn Stancil, co-founder of Mode and insightful commentator on data, joins Shane Harder from Cronitor, David Hsu of Retool, and Brian Clark from Neon. They explore the modern data stack and the potential dissolving of analytics teams, comparing the analytics sector to a Ponzi scheme. The group discusses innovative database technologies that allow safe testing changes, and shares unique tips for captivating public speaking. The interplay of product simplicity and backend complexities rounds out their thought-provoking dialogue.