David Horton of Radford University questions Mr. Jefferson about his formation, highlighting the influence of his father and mother. It explores why Jefferson's life veered from agrarian simplicities to becoming the President. It also reflects on the impact of mentorship on personal development and higher education. The chapter discusses the formation of Thomas Jefferson, changing views on education, and the importance of lifelong learning. It also delves into the establishment of the University of Virginia by President Jefferson and the challenges faced in creating a different concept for the university.

Exploring the history of executive orders in America, from Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation to FDR's Japanese internment camps. Truman's integration of the military and JFK's creation of the Peace Corps through executive orders. Discussion on executive orders overshadowing Congress in policy-making and the cycle of rescinding orders by each new president.

Guest host David Horton and Clay Jenkinson discuss the plans and purposes of 'Listening to America', exploring the changing perception of Thomas Jefferson's legacy and the hunger for a more authentic, idealistic America. They reflect on the upcoming 250th birthday of the nation and emphasize the importance of understanding different perspectives. The chapter also highlights the responsibility of individuals to participate in government and make positive changes, along with amusing anecdotes and experiences portraying historical figures.