David Hera, a mycologist and co-creator of S.A.N, joins the conversation to delve into the innovative AI initiative that translates the language of mycelium into human speech. They explore how this project connects environmental advocacy with modern technology. Topics include the consciousness of fungi, the wisdom of mycelial networks as nature's internet, and the critique of human-centered science. They also emphasize the need for symbiosis over exploitation, urging a deeper connection with our ecosystem and a shift in our relationship with nature.