In this discussion, Matt Kibbe, BlazeTV host known for revealing Dr. Fauci's questionable research practices, teams up with Washington Examiner's David Harsanyi. They dive into the controversial topics of governmental spending, the potential fallout of Fauci's actions during the pandemic, and the political implications of Trump's statements about the Middle East. The conversation also addresses the ethical dilemmas surrounding gain-of-function research and its connection to COVID-19, sparking a lively debate on accountability and transparency in government.