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David Coman-Heide
Guest co-host on this episode and a longtime reader/fan of David Cole's work who participates in interviewing and the post-interview debrief.
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Sep 24, 2025
• 51min
David Cole on what we can learn from the marriage equality and gun rights movements
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David Cole, a constitutional law professor and former ACLU legal director, shares invaluable insights on social change. He discusses how incrementalism played a crucial role in the marriage equality movement, contrasting it with the NRA's strategic political power. Cole emphasizes the significance of local organizing and in-person community in movements, exploring how identity formation aids in recruitment and mobilization. He also addresses the balance between symbolic campaigns and impactful policies, offering lessons applicable to various social movements.
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