Jon Bernthal interviews David Ayer, a renowned filmmaker, discussing their admiration for each other, the impact of a strict football coach and a transformative director. They explore surviving and creating art, finding identity and letting go, navigating challenging environments, military background, and idealistic mindset. They also discuss authenticity, the challenges and dark side of Hollywood, the hunger for authentic art, the impact of divorce on parenting, and their approach to parenting.
