In this episode, the hosts interview David A. Burnett, a scholar and friend, who connects Paul's ideas of the afterlife with the deposing of the divine council. They also discuss whether monotheism was ever a thing in ancient southwest Asia, and explore the concept of other gods in ancient times. The podcast delves into the spectrum between immaterial and material and examines a debate among philosophers in ancient Greece about the nature of the gods. The relationship between celestial bodies and the patriarchal promise in the New Testament is also explored.