Dave Van Vickle, a gifted layman and expert in demonology and exorcism, shares his remarkable experiences as a holder during exorcisms since age 16. He discusses the often-misunderstood role of holders and the emotional toll of the ministry. The conversation delves into how occult practices can invite negative influences and the complexities of distinguishing between spiritual issues and psychological conditions. Van Vickle also reflects on the power of faith, trust, and personal transformation in overcoming demonic forces.