In this engaging conversation, dog trainer Dave Kroyer, a seasoned expert in agility, AKC obedience, and nose work since 1999, shares personal anecdotes and insights with his longtime friend. They reflect on their journeys from competitors to judges in dog sports, emphasizing the joys of companionship with dogs. The duo explores the unique traits of Belgian dogs, the importance of endurance in training, and the evolving methods in the industry. Through humor and thoughtful reflections, they critique modern training practices while advocating for foundational principles.