Danny Frenkel, Co-founder of Punchup.live and former Facebook product engineer, joins the discussion on how DeepSeek's AI innovations are transforming the tech landscape. They explore open-source AI's impact on startups and content ownership in the post-social media world. The conversation highlights the vital role of email for creators and the shift back toward software dominance over hardware. Additionally, they delve into the changing strategies for entertainers in adapting to new digital platforms while engaging audiences in the live entertainment realm.