Henry Trix, a business columnist for The Economist, discusses the economic implications of forced labor in Xinjiang, affecting Western companies reliant on the region's cotton. Daniel Knowles, an international correspondent, dives into the rapid digitalization of government and its associated risks. The conversation highlights the ethical dilemmas faced by corporations, the technological challenges of auditing supply chains, and the impact of border closures on a remote Alaskan community. Together, they uncover the complex web of human rights, corporate ethics, and digital governance.