Dana Hicks, a retired pastor, professor, and author of 'The Quest for Thin Places,' shares his transformative journey from conservative dogma to a more liberal spiritual understanding. He explores how psychedelic experiences can deepen spiritual connections and emphasizes the necessity of awe in our lives post-deconstruction. The discussion touches on challenges faced by pastors during the pandemic, the generational impact of technology on spirituality, and the importance of evolving beliefs for personal growth.