Dan Waldschmidt, host of Ordinary Heroes, and Debbie Lowry, whose poignant story of caregiving and running is central to the podcast's pilot, dive deep into their creative process. They tackle how to best narrate Debbie's emotional journey, balancing the themes of heroism and grief. The discussion also covers critical editorial feedback, such as the use of music and pacing, while highlighting the transformative power of running as therapy. It’s a masterclass in storytelling, revealing the struggles and triumphs of ordinary heroes.