Dan Barry, a senior writer for The New York Times, dives into how Trump and his allies have reshaped the narrative surrounding the January 6 Capitol riots. He discusses the alarming shift in public perception, where support for rioters has grown. The conversation also delves into Trump’s campaign tactics, notably his controversial tribute to January 6 prisoners. Barry highlights the psychological factors that lead supporters to embrace misleading narratives, alongside the complex implications of misinformation and proposed pardons for participants.