Award-winning author, Rachel, and successful entertainment company owner, Dale, discuss the drama of Vanderpump Rules and analyze Bethenny Frankel's interview. They talk about their favorite TV characters, a controversial movie, frustrations with slow walkers, and their opinions on white chocolate. The podcast also includes random conversations, shoutouts, and an unexpected taping experience.

Donna Noble, a popular companion in Doctor Who, joins Ellen and Dale in discussing their favorite games and game development accomplishments of 2023. They also delve into the clever narrative decisions in Doctor Who, the comparison between different Mario games, and their anticipation for Hellblade II and upcoming indie games. The speakers share personal anecdotes, such as Ellen's snake-filled basement and Dale's reliance on their spouse for motivation and support in their work projects.