Cyrus Mody, a Professor in the History of Science, Technology, and Innovation at Maastricht University, shares insights from his book about the often-ignored contributions of 'square' scientists in the 1970s. He contrasts these conventional figures with the countercultural narratives typically dominating discussions about technology. Mody discusses the evolution of STEM education, the intricacies of interdisciplinary collaboration, and the challenges of sustainability in the oil industry, all while emphasizing the importance of responsible scientific practices.