In this engaging conversation, journalist Craig Unger discusses his book, "Den of Spies," which exposes the alleged October Surprise treachery that aided Ronald Reagan's ascension to the presidency. He delves into the historical intricacies of the Iranian hostage crisis and how backdoor negotiations influenced the political landscape. The dialogue also uncovers CIA conflicts during Carter's presidency and the implications of arms dealings. Unger's insights shed light on the intersection of secrecy and politics that shaped a pivotal moment in U.S. history.