Legendary artist Craig Mullins joins Ash Thorp for a mind-bending discussion on composition in art, the relationship between humans and nature, the role of art in interpreting reality, the existence of free will, the impact of advertising and money, the significance of surgeons and AI, the importance of Photoshop, and staying true to principles. They also explore the devastation in Lahaina, the importance of history, creating a stable environment, the cost of convenience, the chaos of life, and the science of breathing.