This episode features Craig Douglas, a retired law enforcement officer and founder of ShivWorks, joined by Scott Oates, a former Navy SEAL and head instructor, alongside Brian Frias, also a former Marine and SWAT officer. They discuss innovative training approaches in combatives, emphasizing experiential learning and effective communication in high-stress scenarios. The trio explores the evolution of self-defense education, the balance of personal growth, and the need for clarity in tactical language. Their experiences provide insight into adapting training for real-world applications.