In this episode, Craig Box, VP of Open Source and Community at Armo, discusses the rise of Kubernetes, its origin story, and its unexpected popularity among DevOps teams. They also touch on the importance of community building, security issues, and the abundance of projects in the CNCF.

Guest Craig Box discusses developer relations, open-source contributions, and the establishment of CNCF. Topics include the evolution of dev rel teams, integration with product teams, governance structures in open source, inclusivity in tech communities, and the value of relationships in the open-source world.