In this segment, guests include Julie Serkin, NBC News congressional correspondent, Courtney Kuby, Pentagon correspondent, and Ashley Akers, a former federal prosecutor. They uncover the surprising dynamics of Mitch McConnell's vote against Pete Hegseth, revealing deep party tensions. The implications of Hegseth's controversial nomination are analyzed, alongside concerns about his qualifications. Akers sheds light on the emotional toll of handling January 6th cases and discusses the impact of presidential pardons on public safety and legal integrity.

Two national security and foreign policy experts, Courtney Kube and Gordon Lubold, discuss the Aspen Security Forum, highlighting topics like the November elections, security failures, and ongoing wars. They share insights into the conference atmosphere, Republican absence, potential Trump administration appointments, Israel and Gaza discussions, and the impact of rhetoric on journalism. The episode concludes with a playful conversation on spy models and James Bond actors.

NBC News Pentagon Correspondent talks about U.S. dock system aiding Gaza. Rep. Gregory Meeks discusses Israel security concerns. Missouri House Minority Leader addresses abortion rights battles in her state.