Cybersecurity experts Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade and Costin Raiu discuss the Microsoft Recall debacle, dark patterns in big tech AI, Brad Smith's testimony, Apple's Private Cloud Compute, and the impact of the CSRB report. They also touch on the KL ban and the EU law on scanning child sexual abuse material, raising concerns about privacy and encryption in tech.

Costin Raiu, a key figure in anti-malware research known for his work on major nation-state APT cases like Stuxnet and Duqu, reflects on his career and ethical dilemmas in cybersecurity. He shares insights on the pressures leading to burnout in the field and how AI is transforming threat intelligence. Costin discusses the importance of accurate cyber threat attribution and the challenges of balancing privacy with national security. He emphasizes learning from mistakes and the evolving landscape of advanced persistent threats, shedding light on the future of malware research.