In a gripping discussion, Cooper Quinton, a Senior Staff Technologist at EFF's Threat Lab, delves into the disturbing case of journalist Irina Petrushova, who faced cyber threats from the Kazakhstan government for her criticism. The conversation uncovers the chilling realities of state-sponsored espionage and the role of private hacking firms. They explore mobile malware connections and the EFF's mission to protect vulnerable populations from digital attacks, emphasizing the ongoing battle for civil liberties in an increasingly threatening cyber landscape.