Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats and former Energy Secretary, dives deep into the contrasting climate policies at COP29. He questions the implications of a potential Trump win on global environmental efforts and assesses Keir Starmer's ambitious carbon reduction targets. The conversation also touches on the Church of England's handling of abuse scandals and the urgent need for accountability. Davey emphasizes the importance of political leadership to inspire public engagement in tackling climate change amidst growing skepticism.