Clifford Humphrey, an expert in theological anthropology and baptist political theology, discusses the misreading of C.S. Lewis's "Mere Christianity" and its implications. They explore the tendency to condense Christianity into a simplistic form and the need for deeper spiritual experiences. The importance of discipleship and creating authentic communities is emphasized, as well as the significance of embracing distinctive beliefs. They also discuss the relationship between anthropology and education, critiquing the Cartesian model of humans and highlighting the importance of both mental and physical connection. Finally, the guest critiques James K.A. Smith and emphasizes the role of faith in the public square.