In this engaging discussion, activist Cleve Jones, dermatologist Marcus Conant, and public health director Mervyn Silverman delve into the contentious debate over the closure of San Francisco's bathhouses during the AIDS crisis. They explore the crucial role these spaces played in the LGBTQ+ community, offering sanctuary and solidarity amid panic. The guests share insights on navigating civil liberties versus public health, the community's emotional turmoil, and the broader implications of activism as they battled the epidemic. Their experiences illustrate resilience in the face of adversity.