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Clara Jeffery
Editor-in-chief of Mother Jones and the Center for Investigative Reporting; author of the essay discussed in the episode arguing for a form of "soft secession" and state-level resistance strategies.
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Oct 7, 2025
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Is It Time for California to Consider a "Soft Secession"?
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Clara Jeffery, Editor-in-Chief of Mother Jones, and Jon Michaels, UCLA Law professor, explore the concept of "soft secession" in California. They discuss how the state can leverage its economic power and push back against federal policies. The conversation covers innovative state-level alliances for issues like vaccinations, the irony of advocating states' rights from a progressive standpoint, and the legal complexities behind reconfiguring state-federal relations. They also highlight the urgency of building infrastructure for resilience amid increasing federal constraints.
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