George Saunders joins Deborah Treisman to read and discuss “So Late in the Day,” by Claire Keegan, which was published in The New Yorker in 2022. Saunders is the author of the novel “Lincoln in the Bardo,” and five story collections, including “Tenth of December” and “Liberation Day,” which came out last year. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Claire Keegan, a celebrated author known for her novella 'Small Things Like These', discusses the painful legacy of Ireland's Magdalene Laundries. The conversation reveals Bill Furlong's emotional journey as he confronts historical injustices. Keegan reflects on the challenges of writing a male protagonist in a women-centered narrative while exploring themes of misogyny and agency. She also shares insights into her writing process, the significance of short storytelling, and how her rural upbringing fuels her creativity.

Claire Keegan, a highly acclaimed Irish writer, discusses her new book of stories that explore tension, drama, and gender dynamics. The book revolves around failed marriage proposals, troubling affairs, and the finite nature of time. Keegan explores the difference between tension and drama in her stories and how characters navigate their decisions influenced by time. They also touch upon other stories involving a writer on residency and a married woman contemplating an affair, as well as the theme of mortality in literature.