Claire Coutinho

Tim Shipman, political editor at The Spectator, joins Claire Coutinho, Shadow Secretary of State for Energy, to dissect Britain's energy crisis. They discuss the financial implications of the UK's high energy costs and the need for reliable electricity. Claire emphasizes the balancing act between achieving net zero and protecting living standards, arguing that the current goal may seem 'perverse.' The duo also explores public sentiment towards energy transitions and speculate on how energy policy will influence Labour's upcoming budget.