Cindy Daley, founding director of the Center for Regenerative Agriculture at California State University, Chico, discusses the future of farming. She critiques traditional agricultural education and champions systems-based research over reductionist methods. Cindy emphasizes the importance of partnering with farmers as co-researchers and highlights innovative technologies like flux towers for measuring soil health. The conversation also dives into educational reforms for future farmers and the pivotal shift needed in agricultural policies to support ecological practices.