In this engaging discussion, Christopher Finlayson, a prominent New Zealand lawyer and former Attorney-General, shares insights on his book, 'He Kupu Taurangi.' He delves into the intricate treaty settlement process, emphasizing the need for direct engagement with Iwi. Finlayson sheds light on the historical struggles of the Tūhoe and the evolution of governance rights. He also explores the significance of place names, discussing their cultural implications and the journey of the Wanganui iwi in seeking recognition for their spiritual connection to the Wanganui River.