In this discussion, April Herlevi and Christopher Cairns, both experts in Chinese security and technology, dive into China's rapid advancements in dual-use technology. They explore the PLA's military AI developments, revealing how civilian tech is intertwining with defense strategies. The conversation also highlights China's semiconductor ambitions, emphasizing the role of nationalism and government support. Additionally, they touch on the significance of subsea technologies for military and civilian applications, and the implications of China's growing commercial space industry on global security.