Professor Christoph Nedopil, director of the Asia Institute at Griffith University, discusses the evolution of China's Belt and Road Initiative. He highlights the shift from grand infrastructure to smaller, more sustainable projects, emphasizing green technology. The conversation touches on China's economic challenges and lessons learned about debt and governance. Nedopil explores how this recalibration may reflect both successes and setbacks within the initiative, as well as its implications for China's global influence and diplomatic strategies.