Christiaan Triebert, a journalist specializing in visual investigations for The Times, shares insights on Ukraine's innovative drone program impacting the conflict with Russia. Serhiy Prytula, a former television host turned key figure in Ukraine's drone efforts, discusses their recent successful fundraising initiative. The conversation highlights the strategic importance of drone strikes, including attacks on Moscow, and the psychological effects on the Russian public. Together, they explore the evolution of drone warfare and its significance in modern military tactics.