In this insightful discussion, Eric Crampton, Chief Economist at the New Zealand Initiative and former international student, joins Chris Whelan, Chief Executive of Universities New Zealand. They delve into the implications of U.S. policies on international students, examining the struggles they face and the potential for New Zealand to attract them as an alternative. The conversation reveals how domestic challenges in the U.S. present opportunities for New Zealand, emphasizing the significance of international students in enriching educational environments and boosting the economy.