Lawrence Chlebeck, a marine biologist and campaigner, Chris Pepin-Neff, a public policy expert, and Hannah Tait, CEO of Action for Dolphins, dive into the heated debate around shark nets in Australia. They discuss the questionable effectiveness of nets for swimmer safety against their harmful impact on marine life. The conversation takes a turn towards innovative alternatives, like drones and smart drumlines, and the sociopolitical dynamics influencing public perception of sharks, urging a more compassionate approach to conservation.