In this discussion, Chiara Brown, Commissioning Editor at The Times Luxury, and Meera Choi, a sociology academic at Yale, explore the provocative 4B movement from South Korea, advocating for 'No sex, no babies, no marriage, no men.' They delve into its viral spread in America, fueled by reactions to misogyny and political shifts. Key topics include how the movement empowers women, the implications of declining fertility rates, and the necessity for gender collaboration in advancing equality. This dynamic conversation uncovers a shifting narrative in women’s rights.