Chase Van Etten, founder and CEO of Vaporware, joins the hosts to discuss NFTs in software distribution, monetizing open-source software, and the future of software development. They explore the evolution of technology and its impact on business strategies, unlocking new technologies like CKs and zero knowledge proof technology, the role of NFTs in Urbit's software development process, and the value of virtual gaming items. They also discuss the development of the Tharsis game as a proof of concept for future software distribution.