Former Homeland Security Advisor and Counterterror Advisor to VP Mike Pence, Olivia Troye, and other guests discuss topics including Trump's legal immunity, the escalation of violence between Israel and Gaza, Hamas' attack plans, the Great Migration, and themes in Sylvia Plath's 'The Bell Jar'

New York Times columnist Charles Blow argues that white supremacy in America will never fully recede, and that it’s time for Black people to do something radical about it. In The Devil You Know: A Black Power Manifesto, he urges a “reverse migration” to the South to consolidate political power and create a region where it’s safe to be Black. (This is an episode of the Freakonomics Radio Book Club.)