Tired of feeling like your team is stuck in a cycle of frustration and miscommunication? What if the biggest blocker in your tech career isn’t your code, but your thinking?

That’s the core premise of Systems Thinking, and in this episode, Diana Montalion (author of “Learning Systems Thinking”) shares the practical insights and mental models to help you make that essential shift.

Key topics discussed:

What systems thinking is and its core principles
The difference between linear thinking (which we need) and systems thinking (which we’re missing)
Why building a metaphorical “car boat” is a failure of “conceptual integrity” and how to avoid it
How to break free from a “change-my-mind” culture and improve our collaboration
The critical skill of metacognition: why you must understand your own thinking before you can influence others
Practical ways to foster collective systems thinking and bridge the gap between Product and Tech
Using modeling and visual tools to create alignment and solve the right problems
How AI’s inability to handle true inference makes human systems thinking more valuable than ever

Whether you’re a software engineer, architect, team leader, or anyone tackling complex problems, learn why your technical skills alone are not enough and how a shift in your thinking can revolutionize your work and career.

Timestamps:

(00:00:00) Trailer & Intro
(00:02:23) Career Turning Points
(00:04:35) Writing Learning Systems Thinking
(00:08:53) Definition of Systems Thinking
(00:13:39) Systems Thinking vs Linear Thinking
(00:19:31) Definition of System
(O0:24:13) Conceptual Integrity
(00:30:02) Practices to Improve Our Systems Thinking
(00:36:21) Metacognition and Self-Awareness
(00:44:42) Practices to Improve Our Collective Systems Thinking
(00:53:04) Collaboration with Consent
(00:55:29) The Importance of Modeling
(01:02:20) AI Usage and System Thinking
(01:11:04) 3 Tech Lead Wisdom

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Diana Montalion’s Bio
Diana Montalion is a systems architect, learning facilitator, and founder of Mentrix Group, with over 20 years of experience delivering transformative software initiatives for organizations like Stanford, The Gates Foundation, The Economist, and The Wikimedia Foundation. As the author of Learning Systems Thinking: Essential Nonlinear Skills & Practices for Software Professionals (O’Reilly), she empowers tech professionals to navigate complex systems through practices like systemic reasoning, metacognition, and collaborative modeling.

Follow Diana:

LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/dianamontalion
Website – montalion.com
Twitter – @dianamontalion
Mastodon - @diana@hachyderm.io
Bluesky - @mentrix.bsky.social
Mentrix Group – https://mentrixgroup.com/
SystemCrafters Collective – https://mentrix.systems/
📚 Learning Systems Thinking – oreilly.com/library/view/learning-systems-thinking/9781098151324/

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