Chad Grylls, a thinker on technology and existential risks, and Andrew Leigh, Australia’s Shadow Assistant Treasurer, dive into a variety of thought-provoking topics. They explore the implications of new technologies on society and the challenges of government versus business careers. Rob shares personal reflections on ethical living, coping mechanisms for life's frustrations, and what he would tell his teenage self. The conversation also touches on the importance of altruism, social connections, and humor in achieving happiness and well-being.